Voices Part 2
With Robert Lawlor
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Robert, you were talking about the paradox. We are all one and yet, we are separated and I was wondering... I wanted you to get back to your point but I also wanted to know how this paradox is unfolding today in the modern world and what the evidence is for it happening right now.
Robert: I think I can answer that rather quickly. I wanted to go to G. Spencer Brown reaction to the paradox basically, creation. He said that to draw a distinction, call the first distinction... call it the first distinction. Call the space in which it is drawn, a space that is severed for cloven with distinction.
So, I realized that we who are exists as the result of the cosmic paradigm the one that is all that is one, and the severance in space into distinction. We tend to work constantly to overcome or to invert this process that brought the universe into existence, brings back insight and creates relationships
So, our effort to reestablish the actuality of oneness behind the great diversity and multiplicity is part of the forces that are driving us towards new goals such as one?world government and one language and one God and not realizing that the representation of multiplicity... of the oneness in... that multiplicity is the whole insight of the universe. The United Nations has really very active goal, the illumined ones or controllers of nations want a one?world government that is based on not understanding the nature of this paradox between one and all, between unity and diversity.
Jay: I think you've nailed it. So, the more that they try to unify, the more that they're actually going to cause it to become more fractious.
Robert: The manifestation of an absolute unity is to withdraw the forces that are sustaining.
Jay: I see. So...
Robert: The Kabbalah has an interesting way of talking about the absolute unity. They call it the invisible face of God and that fits. It is this actual face of God that cannot be seen as the ‘all’. It cannot be named. There is no aspect or creature that is within the universal creation which is based on the severance because nothing can distinguish itself from that absolute unity.
So, there was a very strong move in the religious or spiritual basis of humanity to not to try to give a name for this aspect of invisible faith, that is something that cannot be distinguished and it cannot become a part of the distinguished faith.
However, then there are entities like religion which claimed that they gave a specific name to the all encompassing universe. It is the denial of this original tenet, and the understanding of the nature that is being violated by religion who based themselves on a name or would testify ... It is forgotten.
Jay: So, it's that old kind of Taoist maxim that the more you try to fix it, the more broken it gets and that's what they're trying to do with all this unity.