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The Jehovah Hoax

Part Four.

With

Archaya S.

Jay Weidner:   My name is Jay Weidner. You can check out all of our great films and videos at www.sacredmysteries.com. We have films with Alex Grey, Alberto Villoldo, Neale Donald Walsch, Gregg Braden, Brian Weiss, Terence McKenna and many others.

Acharya, I was wondering if you ever ? I presume from looking at your site and reading your work, that you've made the connection between ancient Egypt and Christianity and the strange analogies between Osiris and God and Horace and Jesus and Isis and Mary and Satan and Seth. I've quit saying Judean Christianity, I now say Egyto?Christianity because it's really more Egyptian than it is Jewish, isn't it?

Acharya:  Isn't it amazing? You just encapsulated it very well. Yes, you know ? yes, you were speaking of "Zeitgeist" earlier. In fact, that first part of the first "Zeitgeist" was an insignificant part by my book. So I have had to come out with more wonders material to assure the people who have seen that, that there was serious, scholarly, scientific evidence for the claims in that movie. That led to this companion guide which was a partial exploration of the Egyptian connections in "Zeitgeist." Then I wrote this massive study called "Christ in Egypt: The Horace?Jesus Connection," that goes into the details of ? you have this list of Horace born on December 25 of the virgin Isis?Mary, and all those characteristics that were so similar to the Christ myth.

I put together from thousands of Egyptian texts. It was a very grueling past. I went through them in a number of different translations, of primary sources. There are hundreds and hundreds of different primary sources, I scoured. Some of it, I translated from Egyptian.

But I'd compared all these different resources, like 900 sources, in my book. There are 2,400 footnotes. It shows where all of these elements come from, what they mean, and that they really are real ? these parallels, these comparisons, these similarities ? between Egyptian religion and Christianity.

This looks like the most obvious thing imaginable in the Mediterranean was to Egypt, and its massive culture and monuments. There were so much of it that they couldn't be destroyed by the fanatics who have come since which would include, of course, Christians and the Muslims. They haven't been able to destroy all of it. Although, of course, in this era, we are seeing even more degradation and destruction going on, unfortunately.

That's religious fanaticism for you.

Jay:  Yep.

Acharya:  But yes, these comparisons are very profound. The Egyptian religion really has much more meaning to it than just crazy people worshiping crocodiles, and ibises, and crocs, and so forth. Their spirituality was tied into the earth itself, but also the cycles of nature. For example, Osiris was a night/sun god, but also represented water especially the Nile. The Nile over?flooding every year was claimed to be Osiris fertilizing the banks of Isis to create a new life of Horace. This was daily Egyptian perception of reality. Everything was animated by the gods, by sentiments, by divinity. It must have been just completely extraordinary to live in such a mind set.

Jay:  I agree. I completely agree with that. I think that waking up every day and having time and space be sacred, as they understood. I can't even imagine what it must have been like.

Acharya:  You can see it in expression in these magnificent buildings that they were able to create. We still don't know how with things like the Great Pyramid of Giza and so forth, how exactly they were able to manifest this unbelievable building. Then to think, the Temple of Karnack, it's just endless, all these tombs and so forth. They all had this divine meaning attached to them. By the way, it's been estimated since there were half a billion followers of the Egyptian religion over its period of 3,000 years or so. So this is not an insignificant portion of humanity. And they had tremendous influence on the surrounding cultures including the Judean one, which was only a couple of hundred miles away to Jerusalem. Really, it was not far. There was this well?worn Horace road that took them from Jerusalem to Egypt.

So this isn't like saying, "Oh, how could they've been influenced. They were so far away. They had to cross a major ocean of several thousand miles." No, they only had to just walk by foot a few hundred miles, and they were right in the heart of Egyptian territory.

So to say that there was no influence on the ? that this massive culture had no influence on the Judean one is just like saying that the Jews live in a vacuum, completely untouched by anyone around them.

Jay:  Yeah, well I agree with that. I think the course of the Egyptian influence is much more prevalent than we've been led to believe, including even in India. It seems to have some Egyptian influence. Or maybe Egypt has some Indian influences. I can't really decide which way it went. It depends on who was first, and it's kind of hard to tell. It looks like India might have been a little bit earlier than Egypt, but I really can't say. Some people tell me that Egypt is 100,000 years old. That's certainly what the priest told Horiatis that it was over 100,000 years old, so we don't know. But I suspect it's probably much older than we can believe.

There are all sorts of strange things in Egypt, too. There's a large slab of black granite that has about 10,000 hieroglyphics engraved in it. We stuck a toothpick down into the hieroglyph and the toothpick went down two inches in the black granite. This hieroglyph was probably about a quarter?of?an?inch?by?a?quarter?of?an?inch big. Now you tell me how ?

Acharya:  You would think it's drilled.

Jay:  Yeah, I mean not even a drill could do it that clean.

Acharya:  Yeah I know it's amazing. I listened to my friend, a dear old friend, Christopher Dunn, talk about the various tool?making, tool marks and so forth on these different monuments. Yeah, it's really fascinating. You look at that and you think, "Well, this is an advanced culture." Now, if that's the case, then their ideation as concerned to philosophy and religion and so forth, must also have been advanced. This, to me, is the great unexamined factor that I think I bring to the table. I contributed to a book about ancient technology that had to do with the monuments globally of this Ablasian culture, if you will. This whole religion that I have put the pieces of this puzzle together, absolutely goes with all of these megaliths that we find all over the planet from Stonehenge to this great pyramid and even older monuments.

In the Americas as well, I'm sure you know all about these incredible massive buildings, constructions that they're finding in South America and North America, that are aligned, archeo?astronomically aligned, to various milestones that were important to the ancient world all over the planet. The solstices, the equinoxes, the phases of the moon, something like Stonehenges actually, is actually a sort of celestial computer.

Now, if you combine that knowledge, that archeo?astronomical knowledge, with their religious devotion, in fact, that these simple Stonehenge are temples, that's where you have what we are now terming "astrotheology." This is what their religion was.

They combined this incredible advanced knowledge of the planetary bodies and earth's relationship to them with a sense of devotion and worship. That's where you get this term "astrotheology." That's it in a nutshell.

It's all over the planet. We find remains of it. They're finding more and more, as you say, with this black granite slab. You were talking about the priority of India and Egypt when you have something like Mohenjo?Daro in Egypt, in the Indus Valley that is really quite incredible. But then you also have this, that Nabta, in Egypt that is now like 6,000 years old, that they've found archeo?astronomical alignments with this temple site.

So yeah, there's this pinball going back and forth as far as the antiquity goes and priority goes. But it's being pushed back all the time. The antiquity of man and a possible knowledge that is, so that's all these thousands of years, being pushed back all the time. It's really fascinating.

Jay:  Well, it is. And, of course, there are also the oomparts which are the strange objects that are found in the strata that really shouldn't be there. Michael Cremo's work and Richard Thompson's work...And there are other things too. They won't even do the proper archaeological dig, like in North America or South America, because the scientists are completely convinced there's no point in it because all life began in Africa.

Acharya:  Yeah, right.

Jay:  It's just cherry?picked almost, what they choose to do and look at, and what they choose not to do and not to look at. The idea that Christianity was really purportedly put up by Paul to be a control agent for the Roman empire, I don't see how that could even be called in to dispute, especially when you study Paul and there are suspicious things that Paul is doing all the time.

Acharya:  I agree with you.

Jay:  This is a guy I wouldn't trust for anything, Acharya.

Acharya:  I think this is something that you would really enjoy because you're visually oriented with all your imagery put together; I have this new product called the "2010 Astro?theology Calendar." You can really see this Christian overlay that you were just talking about. You can really see how they usurped all kinds of pagan holidays, that they overtook them, and tried to Christianize them and so forth.

Jay:  Yep.

Acharya:  When you look at this calendar and see the days and see how they've had this astro?theological pagan meaning previously. I think that that would be a fascinating for you.

 

The Jehovah Hoax

Part Three

With Archaya S.

Jay Weidner:  We're all going to return to the sacred earth, hopefully, before this collapse of the economy and the world is over. I think sometimes that is really the only answer. I think the virtual reality of this world is disappearing in front of our eyes. A lot of people that are not preparing for what's about to happen are not going to make it. Maybe this is the way nature cleans out the place or something. I don't know. But if you're listening to this, you should be aware of what's something. Do you take care of yourself physically? Do you take care of yourself spiritually? You need to learn the truth. That's really all that's important.

I have a friend who's quite a well?known intellectual. He tells me that the Age of Aquarius is coming here within the next two years, around 2010. He assures me that Christianity will be completely disappeared off the planet in just a few years because he thinks that it was completely a Piscean cultural phenomena, I guess you would say.

Acharya:  Yes. I believe that Jesus Christ is a mythical figure who was contrived by the priesthood in order to unify the Roman Empire under one state of religion.

Jay:  Yes, some theory.

Acharya:  Other than that, they differ with the details. Now, all this stuff, including what you brought up earlier about the old testament figures being mythical, this is only in my first published book which is called "The Christ Conspiracy: the Greatest Story Ever Sold." I delve into this notion that there is no historical evidence for Moses, the exodus, Abraham, Solomon.

Jay:  Yes.

Acharya:  Abraham and Sarah seemed to be the Indian god and goddess Brahma and Saraswati. I go into this kind of detail in "The Christ Conspiracy," as well as what you were just talking about, this whole Piscean, Aquarian timeline. That it appears, if you go and look at the meanings of these myths and you find out that they are astrotheological ? they have to with the sun, the moon, the stars and the constellations, and so forth ? that we are dealing with these ages, these procession of the equinoxes that's spelled every 2,150 years or so, the sun is back dropped by a new constellation at the horizon as it rises. That's called heliacally. That's where these age names come from. The ancients were pretty well aware, the more educated the priesthoods and so forth, they were pretty well of these various ages, both dated with the possession of the equinoxes and, in fact, of course they started to name them and chart them way back then.

There's a no man's land, so to speak, in between the different ages of a couple of hundred years or so. So I haven't really been able to get a straight answer from an astronomer as to when exactly these ages would change. Like they say, there's this, this comes in a sketchy period.

But around 2,100, 2,025, maybe more or less, years ago, we supposedly moved into a new age. The technology back then was different, obviously, than what we use today, this chart time and so forth. But there was this belief that we were moving in to the age of Pisces. That's why we have all of this discussion in the New Testament about fish.

These are the fishermen. There's the fish on the back of people's cars as actually an ancient symbol. There are the fishes, the communion food because when Christ is resurrected, He asked for fish. It's like, "Why would the resurrected God need some food?" This is a hint that we are dealing with this astrotheological development here.

Prior to that, we had Moses and he's destroying the bull worship, and kind of raising up a lamb. They're starting to slaughter fewer bulls in the Judaic practices and more lambs.

Jay:  As we go from Taurus to Aries.

Acharya:  Exactly. Then the calling of the shofar, the ram's horn, and so forth. There's this whole lamb stuff going on there. We find that in other cultures as well.

Jay:  That's right.

Acharya:  We find that other gods, they're associated with the lamb, with Krishna and Horace and so forth. All these motifs start to become very common and very obvious. They're much more interesting. The way they incorporated all these cosmic elements into the religious god and mythology of the day is much more interesting than the story of god coming to earth 2,000 years ago, and this little backwater is filling 90 miles, the area of where the gospel story supposedly took place. This tiny, little backwater in the desert region that does supposedly came to earth at that time. For a few years, he ministered for like two or three years and then was killed. And that's how God is going to fix the sins of the world. This story has really become corrupt and not very attractive or interesting at all. In fact, it's been a source of a lot of grief on this planet, to say the least.

Jay:  That's for sure, yes.

Acharya:  I don't want to see it replaced by anything worse either.

Jay:  No, I don't either.

Acharya:  The best way through all of this, as far as I'm concerned, is to know what this motifs stand for. That no culture has a lock on god. No culture is depicting accurately 100 percent. There also has to be room for this idea that we don't need to follow an organized religion. We do have innate morality. That will allow us not to destroy our neighbor in the name of religion, in the name of God. Not to try to enslave our neighbors and other human beings in the name of this God. As you say, if you studied the history and origins of religion, then you are free, really, of that belief because you start to realize there's a much bigger meaning to this stuff. And it doesn't have to do with one guy who's dictating rules, so we all have to follow or we're killed or whatever.

Jay:  Yeah I agree. I think it's beginning. I think books like what you're doing, the books that you're writing and things like these are really the beginning of the serious reeducation about what religions are. I think you're right, religions, especially Christianity, was created by the Romans to control populations because it was too hard. The Roman Empire was too big. I'm Jay Weidner. You're listening to "Smoke and Mirrors." We'll be right back. Thanks for listening.

 

The Jehovah Hoax

Part Two

With Archaya S.

 

Jay Weidner: I want to remind everyone about our great films and videos at www.sacredmysteries.com. You can also read my articles at www.jayweidner.com. We're talking to Acharya S. about her site is www.truthbeknown.com. We're talking about the origins of religion and Christianity and all sorts of good things. Acharya, do you know about this new book that, I believe it's in Hebrew but it's being translated right now. It's called "How the Jews Invented Their History?"

Acharya:  I don't know that one, no.

Jay:   I haven't read it, but this is a book written by the head of the history department at Tel Aviv University. It's the number one bestseller in Israel, and has been for a year now. It is being translated. This guy proves beyond any shadow of a doubt that there was no Moses, that there was no Solomon, there was no David, that the Jews actually rewrote their history to back?date it because they were so jealous of the Greeks. They back?dated it so it looked like the Jewish God was giving the scoop long before the Greeks. What's interesting about this though is the Jewish god, as you well know, is Yahweh or, translated into Latin or English is, Jove or Jehovah. But Jehovah is Jove which is Jupiter, which is Zeus essentially.

Acharya:  That's right, yes.

Jay:  So the Jews and the Christians have essentially been worshipping Zeus for 2,000 years. And they talk about us worshipping pagan gods and things. It just cracks me up. I mean, here it is. Their name is Jehovah. I have a church down the street from me called Jehovah Witnesses. They knock on my door and I tell them, "Oh, so you're the witnesses for Zeus." hey don't get it. It's right there in the title of their god. What Zeus essentially did, according to this book, was he fired all the other gods and made himself the only god. Really.

Acharya:  Well, that's the kind of what is called he?knows?he?ism, but they kind of shared, in the Olympic pantheon, they kind of shared powers and so forth. But he certainly was the top dog. He had the last word. But you see that they're always bickering amongst themselves, and the Greek gods, the big stories. It reminds me of when I was a kid. I was very fond of reading the stories of Greek myths. They were great. They were colorful. They reflected humanity in its many forms, good or bad. You didn't have to believe in them in this era. They weren't going to get you if you didn't believe in them, which is a little bit different from the Judea of Christian Islamic tradition.

If you don't believe in them right now, if you don't believe in Yahweh, Allah, God, the Old Testament, the nasty guy, then he's going to get you for even hell and even Jesus is going to torture you according to the New Testament and so forth. It never ends. There's always this threatening and jumping on your case.

So, the Greek gods, they're a little bit more playful and they're a little more accepting of the human condition, human nature. But at the same time, I didn't find the explanations of the myths to be all that satisfying. There's a lot of psycho battle. And yes, that's great. It's how teaching us about our inner spirituality and so forth, and our psychological make?up. That's great, and that's very helpful to humanity.

But there's also this whole hidden layer that almost never gets exposed, that is much more interesting to me because it goes beyond human neurosis and psychosis. And there's only so much of that that I can take. It's like watching a soap opera on a loop, endlessly.

But this grandiose cosmic theme that has been recorded in this nest is far more interesting after a certain point. It has to do with how profound is the effect of the sun on the earth, for example; how much we need the solar cycle for life to continue; the affect of the sun's rays in the moon, and having that second night light.

All these wonderful qualities of the sky, both day and night, as well as the earthly factors like the wind and water and so forth, they were all relished as something with meaning. To the point of having divinity bestowed upon them by the human perception.

I rather like that perception because it gives you the feeling of when you're, I always do this as an example because it strikes me constantly, and I still climb mountains and see wonderful views. I climb a mountain and I stood up there, and this magnificent sunset, and the waves of hills in front of me or other mountains, and the sky is a riot of colors and it extends out into the Cosmos for all eternity, for infinity, to plug your newest project.

So you can sit there and experience that, and really understand. That's the meaning that's trying to be conveyed by our most profound spiritual position.

Jay:  Yes. I completely agree with that. I think that returning to the sacred earth is probably the real way out of our predicament right now. My name is Jay Weidner. We're going to take a break. We're here with Acharya S. talking about religions and their lack of illumination maybe, even their lack of credibility in some cases. Anyway, I'm Jay Weidner. We'll be right back. Thanks for listening. Make sure you look up that article, "The Shining Shining."